Host:  ...they raise the frequency of humanity. completely, so I think it's really exciting, he has a history since the early 70s in this field and we have a lot to learn. so thank you so much. mr. Philip Wilson! Come on up! thank you. We are so excited you are here.

Phil:  thank you thank you. hello. you can hear me good here? okay. So I have given many many talks on the Relax Sauna, and on far infrared ray energy, and I am uh... I'm not, it's sort of like, I call it coming out of my spiritual closet. I usually don't talk about spiritual awareness when I go to doctors conferences, and other conferences where I speak. But for 15 years I have been using the Relax Sauna. oh and you're going in right now. Yeah we're gonna put about five or six or ten of you in for five minutes sessions while I'm giving the talk. That's what I have my assistants for so I don't have to get off the stage to put you in. Now I didn't see how many... I didn't see how many people are new to the conscious life Expo? (show hands) and how many people are new to far infrared ray energy. (show hands) Okay but you all know about saunas.

Okay you know about saunas, okay. There's a dr. Bill Akpinar. He happens to be a medical doctor, A Chinese medical doctor, a holistic dentist, and a chi gong master, and an acupuncturist. He was gifted the Relax Sauna by one of his patients who had a relative who had cancer, he does not have cancer anymore. As a matter of fact dr. Akpinar was voted the best cancer doctor in New York City in 2007. he's holistic, he had to create a Oh some kind of university, and something else so that he could treat... he does very very innovative treatments. He's a great man. He was the guest speaker about three four years ago in Costa Mesa for a detox conference. He spoke about far infrared ray saunas and he mentioned the Relax Sauna is the one that he uses. So he had another sauna that he was using for a number of years. When he was gifted the Relax Sauna he didn't think anything of it because he said I have a sauna... you know a sauna, is a sauna, is a sauna, well not true. every sauna has a different kind of technology.

It's the technology that makes a sauna wonderful not the wood not not the outside but it's the the energy coming out of the emitters of the specific frequency because it's all vibrational energy. I know I think Richard Garba came out with a book called Vibrational Medicine way back, and I know dr. cousins talked a lot about vibrational energy back about 20-30 years ago. dr. Lieberman is speaking at this conference and he he brought out a book called Light Therapy: Medicine Of The Future and when I first saw the book and perused it and read parts of it, I just didn't realize that light energy is not just Color Therapy. It's all the invisible frequencies that we can't see.

Anyway dr. Bbill Akpinard did a study of sweating, and one of my favorite quotes in this book, because he quotes Hippocrates and Hippocrates says something like, there's many translations of it, but, "find me a way to create sweat and I will cure disease"... because sweating gets rid of the toxins.

It turns out there's a beautiful video on YouTube it says far infrared ray verses near-infrared and it shows the far infrared rays going in through the skin through the next layer and then going into the next layer where the water cells are hanging out, and all of a sudden the water starts pulsating, and then they start rising and then you got these these toxins in the other layer, and then and the water brings the toxins out of the body.

When I first had you know my first out-of-body experience back in nineteen seventy, in February, I graduated Indiana University I had a degree in mathematics. I was pretty smart I actually had an honours degree in mathematics. But I didn't realize that after that experience my whole being was different but I didn't realize, it took me about a year and a half to figure out what happened, you know, because I lost interest in math, and got super fascinated by creativity which I'd always been but also by communication.

I just love, to me my greatest joy in doing this right now I am honing in on my skills, I am improving my communication skills this very moment. When I remember, you know, studying everything spiritual in the last 30-40 years, especially in the early 70s when I didn't know what the heck was going on, the original definition of sin was missing the mark. So I like to tell people how I help my employees by improving their aim okay... you're gonna improve your mark right, so improving their aim and their skills of folding paper sorting papers and whatever they do at the office, I'm helping them absolve their sins because I'm improving their aim. I thought that was funny just because it's like there is no wrong. There is no right. You just do what you do. If you quote, make a mistake it's not really a mistake because by making a mistake you get led into a world and you learn certain things. Then you look after the fact you see that you didn't make a mistake you just thought you did. You were guided into this so you could become aware, and once you're aware, it doesn't matter the main thing is you're there.

So you know taking that to another level even recently I've learned that drudgery is not something I enjoy doing. I think the mark of a person's spiritual unfoldment is what do you do in the ten minutes that happens when you miss a turn on the freeway, and you have to drive ten minutes out of your way to get back. How do you spend that time. Now you know I used to spend that time hurrying because I couldn't wait to get back to start over, meanwhile I missed ten minutes of my life. But you know you just do the best you can to know that you can't undo what you did and just get back in the moment. Enjoy the moment and you'll have all these realizations and all this fun when you get back, there you are. In other words you sort of like, you want time and space to disappear. So when you get into the Relax Sauna time and space sort of disappear.

Dr. Akpinard mentions in his book, when he's halfway through writing it, maybe in the first third of the book, he's tired so he takes a break, It says he'd come back from doing the sauna for twenty or thirty minutes, I feel mentally clear and I fear spiritually attuned in. I said you know that's exactly what I've been saying for years. When I go into the Relax Sauna every morning, I drink water I get in and a lot of times when I'm meditating. You know meditation is sort of like a misnomer it's really contemplating. According to the Yoga Sutras of Patanjali there's concentration, then meditation and then contemplation. Contemplation is sort of like when you pinpoint something after you're in a calm state. You meditate to get to that place where you're centered and grounded and that's what the Relax Sauna does more than anything, it gets you into that space and once you're there then you pinpoint something and you wait for the secrets to unfold. In the book Yoga Sutras of Patanjali he says perfect contemplation on the moon and the secrets of the moon will be revealed to you. Everything in life is like that. The moon the Sun, your daily communication, being in the Relax Sauna. you know and

I've spent 15 years being in that sauna I have put over a hundred and fifty thousand people doing 30 shows a year demonstrating the Relax Sauna. I have seen 20,000 minor or major miracles of people going in there and saying oh my god the pain I had in my neck for the last 17 months it's gone... in seven minutes. We had a man today he had you know his friend was in the sauna and then he said well I have back pain. I said we'll go on in. I said what's your level of back pain you know from a 1 to 10. It's about an 8 maybe a 7, and I said I can get it down to a 3 or 4 in five minutes. People you know they they just gloss over that when I say that and he said sure enough down to a three . I said you come back a half-hour later because we don't want you to sweat here. After about eight minutes you start sweating. Go in for eight minutes now, then come back half an hour later and do another 8 minutes. I said you'll get it down to a 1 or maybe even a zero. I've seen miracle after miracle. We have actually 650 video testimonies on YouTube talking about how on many different levels.

Now if you if you got this the the yellow brochure the golden brochure did you all get that? Ok well anyway the second quote is from a lady who got in the sauna at our store we have a little store in Columbus Ohio it's like a health food store it's we have massage tools and supplements and stuff like that no food except raw food snacks because I'm into raw foods and but it's like she just went on for 6 or 7 minutes where and I've had other people do this they say I feel hugged by my grandma. I feel you know and in Taiwan they say it's like being in the presence of the chi gong master now when you say what does it mean to be in the presence of a chi gong master well it's like in India they would say it's like being in the presence of a guru in and I translate into American English and I say this is the best we could do to get a step down version of divine love in a box. In other words you you can feel a presence in there it's you know and it's like the parasympathetic nervous system gets activated and it's in to balance where the sympathetic slows down. I've had people come out and say it's just weird I feel relaxed and energized at the same time as that yeah you got it you got it that's what it does you know and in amassing 650 testimonies, I've done what 400 shows in a year I mean not in a year but in 14 years I've got a lot of comments.

So we have people with Lyme disease who say I a year later I don't have any symptoms anymore a naturopathic doctor talked about is his wife was able to get 75 percent better from her Lyme and then and then her lime literate doctors said do a foreign Fred sana so that the naturopathic doctor had seen me around he got one and boom she was at 95% and basically had her life back and we have a lot of reports like that it's it's very it's cool.

Phil (off mike talking to off screen person in the sauna):  are you enjoying that? What you do is you unzip the zipper like three four inches see and... because you get to control the temperature... yeah right hey relaxing yeah... anything else? yes yes we did an interview with a testimonial in San Francisco about six seven years ago with a lady named Katie and she says she has a friend who's intuitive and she said your body really loves that sauna... yeah all that. so...

Phil: (addressing the audience again)  whoever wants to you know (woman stands to go try the sauna for 5 min.) okay good. Have you haven't been in it yet? Have you, okay this will be a treat. A lot of times you know people are surprised they have no clue... they have no clue how good it's gonna feel and then when they go in and they feel that good they say oh my gosh what is this and then I have to explain to them you know, don't get a cheaper sauna because if you do you'll be disappointed, because it won't work the same, but you know that's that's just part of communicating you know to everyone the beauty of it.

We had one lady at a San Francisco Green Show, she got she wanted to get the Relax Sauna but she couldn't afford it and so... even though we do payment plans, however she she ended up ordering one of those cheap saunas and then they had a radiator in there to make it hotter because that was not far infrared ray and she went ahead and got that and she did not like it. She said it burnt her adrenals. It was too harsh and she ended up returning it and then getting the Relax Sauna and said oh my gosh... soft warm loving light! Big big difference you know it's like... I'd be rich if I had a dollar for every person... for every... usually women but occasionally a men will say it... I feel like I've been hugged by my grandma! That's one of the the most common comments when people go into this thought. It's really funny you know just to get people's reactions and you know a lot of people aren't real open and a lot of people are and it's just it's fun to me. I mean to me this is fun turning people onto a product that's going to improve the quality of their life and help tune them in to that which they are is what I like to say because that's what it does for me

I've been meditating doing spiritual exercises contemplating whatever since about 1970 I just started doing it because I didn't have anything else I wanted to do and then later on I learned certain techniques to get better at it. A lot of times it would take me five or ten or 15 or 20 minutes to get to that space where you feel totally relaxed and tuned in. Sometimes it takes a while, but if I get into the Relax Sauna it'll cut that time in half sometimes a third sometimes a fourth and it's really nice to have. It really is a very useful tool.

Now far infrared energy has been popular for the last sixty years or so and it was basically introduced to the world by dr. Sherry Rogers, and she wrote a book called Detoxify Or Die, and that's this book here. and and Dr. Sherry Rogers is a medical doctor and she treated people with chemical sensitivity and all sorts of ailments and people who were would come to her after they went to all the other doctors said there's nothing we know how to do to help you, and she used far infrared saunas and performed miracles. This book Ddetoxifier Die is a testament to the the benefits that far infrared saunas can do

Now I've really never described or defined what far infrared ray energy is. So I am I'm not going from 1 to 2 to 3 to 10 I'm going from wherever it is coming from and sometimes I have fun watching how everything gets said but you know usually, when I give a talk on the far infrared ray energy I start with what it is and stuff like that and now here it is. Chapter 3 and I'm telling you what far infrared ray energy is basically we as human beings are far infrared beings. We generate far infrared light. You know how people say I'm a spiritual being in a physical body. We are beings of light and we shine light and the light we shine being in a physical body it's all pretty much the same like dogs have you ever heard of a Three Dog Night? Besides being a band a three dog night is when it's so cold in Alaska or northern Canada that you need three dogs to lie on top of you at night generating far infrared ray energy to keep you warm see when you hug someone you experience their far infrared ray energy and they experience yours. That's the far infrared ray energy on a cold day when you've got a winter coat on in the house Honus the Sun is hot you close your eyes and you feel the warmth of the the sun go through your whole body. That's far infrared ray being absorbed. Far infrared ray energy is responsible for photosynthesis in plants. When you have Premies, after they're born early... the babies, there is far infrared light that goes in and that helps them develop. What's really sad is when they get back to normal, they quit doing the far infrared light. Why they don't do far inferred light for all babies, all the time is like you know part of the the ails of this society. The society is not tuned in but being in the Relaxed Sauna, I say... and this is the whole thing of my talk... it will help you tune into that which you are.

That's a secret because when you tune into that which you are and you get in harmony then when stress comes at you you can nip it in the bud, and not be stressed. The whole key you know, there are many whole keys, but this is one whole key... is acceptance. See understanding comes after the fact when you get guided to do something and you say oh I don't know if this is going against everything I've ever been taught or everything and you just do it anyway then later on you understand why because until you accept something you cannot understand it.

If a mother wants to understand her daughter, the daughters a prostitute, the daughters a heroin addict, oh I wish I could understand my daughter. No way in hell. Because you don't accept your daughter's right to have her experiences. But if you would accept her and say what does it feel like when... and said oh mom it was terrible... whatever, and then the daughter invites the the mom into her world and then she can understand. So acceptance only with acceptance can you have understanding. Non-resistant thought expands the heart center that means when you resist something and sometimes people go into the sauna one lady had breast cancer and didn't know it and she had all this resistance in her breast. Being in a sauna the first time then the doctor said then they did the discoveries and found out she had breast cancer... they actually useed thermography to detect breast cancer. It's a whole lot better than mammograms which actually are cancer-causing, strangely enough.

Did you ever read Superman comics when you were a kid you know remember the part where they said bizarro world okay we are living in bizarro world where everything is backwards they call disease care healthcare they call death insurance life insurance I mean it's it's just marketing ploys all over the place. so you know it's just interesting just to be aware and see, and being aware comes from being tuned in, and it's a whole process of life and the more you enjoy every moment the the more you know. Again, when you enjoy every moment it's because you're accepting it and it's like I think I mentioned something about drudgery. I would walk down from my second-floor bedroom downstairs and say, 'oops I forgot something'. Now way back as a kid I would drudge from room to drudging ly go upstairs. Now, I switch into exercise mode and say okay, I'll have a half minute of exercise and I run up the stairs and get it. Anytime you do anything with drudgery that means you're refusing to do it with your all, and therefore you're double-sided you're doing it, but not doing it, and that only creates stress.

I was noticing the other day, see, have you ever heard of EMF? Okay there... oh my gosh! I found out the new name in the 21st century for the devil... its EMF. It's like people are scared stiff. You mentioned EMF and they shiver. You know so just the fear of EMF is ten times worse it causes more stress, than the EMF even from the cellphones, let alone... now I've watched a whole bunch of interviews on famous doctors being interviewed about EMF. They mention cell phones, cell phone towers, Wi-Fi, microwave ovens, and smart meters. They never mentioned electric massage tools. They never mention juicers. They never mention Vitamix blenders. They never mentioned vacuum cleaners. But sometimes they mentioned saunas! Because it's a fear tactic okay. It's like for example that particular sauna has no electricity anywhere but near the radiator because it uses the tent as a mirror. All the other saunas or most of the other saunas you know they have to have... because, cats lie in the Sun not in the shade . Because if you lie in the Sun you can get the far infraerd ray energy. If the Sun is here, and I'm here, I'm not getting any. So this company instead of having a $10,000 sauna or an $8,000 sauna they have the tent that is coated with silver which acts as a mirror. Because far infrared light... they they don't teach you this in eighth grade but they I think they ought to... far infrared light goes through clothes. far infrared light even though it's invisible is reflected by a mirror. Far infrared ray is a light and therefore it goes at the speed of light, which is about 186,000 miles a second, so you have those radiators in there... on the bottom... and if they're one degree off it's gonna go up, and at 186,000 miles a second within half a second you're gonna be in the middle of invisible light box that is very bright. The brightness of this sauna is about ten times brighter than the $200 cheap saunas that you find that are made in China... that are wonderful if you can't afford one of these, there really are nice. I had one for a year and I loved it. But if you've never had a car and you get a car that goes thirty miles an hour and you only been driving a bicycle you're gonna love it... until you find a car that goes 85 miles an hour so, it's just, everything is relative. Everything is relative. Everything is good, there's a lot of machines out there, they do a little bit of good.

but a lot of people they have Lyme disease. Like there's a lady... she, you know had Lyme disease and she has neuropathy in her fingers and in her toes. She can't, she doesn't have any feeling there and she's got a little portable sauna she's had for a year and she goes into for an hour and she like said she got in the Relax Sauna at a Lyme conference about three months ago, and for the first time in two-and-a-half years she had feeling in her hands... and in her toes... 12 minutes! So that's the difference between, and we have had incredible incredible. I've experienced, second hand, people with Lyme disease, people with Raynaud's, with what I just said, neuropathy and so many individuals with so many different situations and problems. There are a lot of them on YouTube, you know if you just do ...

Phil (phil interacting with off screen sauna users): Now we're gonna get we're going to interview this young lady. How was that. Did you expect it to be like that ? Did you have pain before you went in? What was your level of pain? What's it now... (applause, and laughter) You know I feel like I'm Oral Roberts did you ever remember when I was a kid. (phil to lady that just exited the sauna, apparently quoting her...) 'you don't feel no pain'... sure yes please yes yes (people getting up to try the sauna) and so so what I'm here to do is educate you about... (addressing some one in the audience) thank you very much... about the physical effects, the emotional, the mental, and the spiritual effects of far infrared saunas in general and specifically of the magic of the Relax Sauna, because their technology was it was Aaha! (addressing the audience again) just like I was introduced, and I said

I had an out-of-body experience in 1970 in February first I believe... or something like that... I had a realization that I was very left brain and that I needed to get involved with music art and dance... to dig myself out of the hole that I had dug myself into. A year and a half later I looked back at the same experience and I saw that these these two or these three beings or two beings I don't remember right now, but they took me out of my body and they showed me the overhang of about six indoor tennis courts. They had a whole group of people dancing, a whole people doing music, and a whole people doing art, not a whole... like two or three in each section, and they said this is what you need to do Phil because you are so left brain you need to feel you know. They didn't say that but but I had the realization and then later in or later on I read the book, Narcisse's and Goldman by Hermann Hesse, and he's just one of my favorite authors from way back and he was very popular in the early 70s he wrote Siddhartha, he wrote Steppenwolf and those are the famous ones that he wrote, another one is Magister Ludi or Damien but at any rate, the book narcissus and Goldman is all about feeling and thinking and to me it was like I was a thinker who's becoming a feeler and it was exciting because that's the balancing and the parasympathetic system in your body stands for feeling and the sympathetic is you know flight...